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 ====== Clem Cole's Student Experiences ====== ====== Clem Cole's Student Experiences ======
  
-I was a student, but working as a 360/TSS programmer and PDP-10/20\\ +I was a student, but working as a 360/TSS programmer and PDP-10/20 
-programmer in the CMU computer ctr. I also did some hacking for the EE\\ +programmer in the CMU computer ctr.  I also did some hacking for the EE 
-dept mostly for free for them - as EE was my major. My girlfriend at\\ +dept mostly for free for them - as EE was my major. ​ My girlfriend at 
-the time was working for an EE prof and she got me to bring UNIX over\\ +the time was working for an EE prof and she got me to bring UNIX over 
-from CS (EE had a 11/​20'​s and a prototype 11/34 <– not a 34A) and CS\\ +from CS (EE had a 11/​20'​s and a prototype 11/34 <-- not a 34A) and CS 
-of course had numerious 11's as they were building C.mmp and writing\\ +of course had numerious 11's as they were building C.mmp and writing 
-Hydra. [CMU/CS actually ran UNIX on the ``pre-Hydra''​ 11/40E <– the E\\ +Hydra. ​ [CMU/CS actually ran UNIX on the ``pre-Hydra''​ 11/40E <-- the E 
-was a CMU/3 River'​s writeable microcode modification - very cool).]\\ +was a CMU/3 River'​s writeable microcode modification - very cool).] 
-\\ +     ​ 
-Anyway, I had access to the only 11/​45'​s on Campus in the computer\\ +Anyway, I had access to the only 11/​45'​s on Campus in the computer 
-center where I worked - which was important because V5 and V6 really\\ +center where I worked - which was important because V5 and V6 really 
-wanted to be booted on an 11/45. Dan Klein, who was math major, but\\ +wanted to be booted on an 11/​45. ​ Dan Klein, who was math major, but 
-like me, had a similar job to mine, working for the CS Dept to pay his\\ +like me, had a similar job to mine, working for the CS Dept to pay his 
-bills. There was a lot of helping each other because the equipment we\\ +bills. ​ There was a lot of helping each other because the equipment we 
-had was both common and complementary - so all the systems programmers\\ +had was both common and complementary - so all the systems programmers 
-tended to have ``guest accounts''​in both worlds. Since Dan and I were\\ +tended to have ``guest accounts''​ in both worlds. ​ Since Dan and I were 
-the common threads with access to all versions of the HW were sort in\\+the common threads with access to all versions of the HW were sort in
 the middle of moving this stuff around. the middle of moving this stuff around.
- +      
-<​code>​ +Note: CMU/CS had already done the V5 to V6.  EE never had V5,
- \\ +
-</​code>​ +
- +
-Note: CMU/CS had already done the V5 to V6. EE never had V5,\\+
 although any of us that had CS accounts has briefly used it there. although any of us that had CS accounts has briefly used it there.
- +      
-<​code>​ +In the fall of ??1976?? I believe, ted kowalski shows up for his OYOC 
- \\ +year in the EE dept after his summer at Bell Labs, and graduating U 
-</​code>​ +Michigan (he was once Bill Joy's housemate at Michigan in a strange 
- +twist of fate). ​ He brought with him some stuff, including a photocopy 
-In the fall of ??1976?? I believe, ted kowalski shows up for his OYOC\\ +of what would become K&R and copy of typesetter C, and a copy of 
-year in the EE dept after his summer at Bell Labs, and graduating U\\ +UNIX/​TS. ​ He also brought his cool (but unfinished) program he had 
-Michigan (he was once Bill Joy's housemate at Michigan in a strange\\ +started to write originally at U Mich - fsck. [Hacking on fsck under 
-twist of fate). He brought with him some stuff, including a photocopy\\ +the tutorial guidence of tjk was my first real introduction into UNIX
-of what would become K&R and copy of typesetter C, and a copy of\\ +
-UNIX/TS. He also brought his cool (but unfinished) program he had\\ +
-started to write originally at U Mich - fsck. [Hacking on fsck under\\ +
-the tutorial guidence of tjk was my first real introduction into UNIX\\+
 file system internals] file system internals]
- +      
-<​code>​ +Ted brought back to AT&T to the 11/34 support and eventually 11/34A and 
- \\ +RK07 support that Dan and I would later do.  He also spoke of the 
-</​code>​ +upcomming 7th edition. ​ Ted wanted to get the 34 supported added back 
- +into the main line at AT&T, because it was clear that was going to be 
-Ted brought back to AT&T to the 11/34 support and eventually 11/34A and\\ +system most people bought from then on.  We keep asking when it was 
-RK07 support that Dan and I would later do. He also spoke of the\\ +going to be released. ​ While CMU was not the first V7 licensee - thanks
-upcomming 7th edition. Ted wanted to get the 34 supported added back\\ +
-into the main line at AT&T, because it was clear that was going to be\\ +
-system most people bought from then on. We keep asking when it was\\ +
-going to be released. While CMU was not the first V7 licensee - thanks\\+
 to Ted, we were very early. to Ted, we were very early.
  
-\\ +In 1977/78 Dan and I would start to work from CMIR - CMU's Industrial 
-In 1977/78 Dan and I would start to work from CMIR - CMU's Industrial\\ +Research arm which had a new group start up a person who originally had 
-Research arm which had a new group start up a person who originally had\\ +an appointment in EE (Ron Krutz) - CMIR was the ``Mellon Institute''​ 
-an appointment in EE (Ron Krutz) - CMIR was the ``Mellon Institute''​\\ +part of Cargnie-Mellon Univ). ​ They  worked with industry and even took 
-part of Cargnie-Mellon Univ). They worked with industry and even took\\ +on profit stuff. ​ Dan and I, brought the Kowalski/​Cole/​Klien UNIX over 
-on profit stuff. Dan and I, brought the Kowalski/​Cole/​Klien UNIX over\\ +from EE to be the basis and added to write a driver for the newest DEC 
-from EE to be the basis and added to write a driver for the newest DEC\\ +disk (CMIR had serial #3 RK07 and a very early 34A).  Ted was a little
-disk (CMIR had serial #3 RK07 and a very early 34A). Ted was a little\\+
 nervious about the license, as CMIR was doing a lot of stuff in the nervious about the license, as CMIR was doing a lot of stuff in the
 +for profit part and the AT&T Unverisity Research License forbade that.
 +
 +The folks at CMIR promised to fix that, but it seemed like promises
 +for a long time -- hense Dan and mine work slow down.  My memory
 +is that actual commercial license was purchase after we got V7,
 +but that's purely memory. ​ I'ld need to look at the system we ran.
 +Certainly by the time I left for Tek, 1979 V7 was running at CMU.
  
 +But the point is... the Ted brought TS to CMU as a post V6
 +system. ​ Some of the CMU changes stuff made it back to V7 via
 +Ted.
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